Editing Talk:Log Horizon Specific Guidelines (section)

==Elder Tale or Tales==
The katakana and pronunciation sound like Tale, but the game logo in the LN spells out Tales. This is basically the Marielle/Maryele argument again, so you can probably guess where I fall on it. --[[User:Rasen|Rasen]] ([[User talk:Rasen|talk]]) 07:58, 19 November 2013 (CST)

:In anime, narrator clearly says Elder Tale (without s), I'm personaly going with the anime
:Anyway the LN illustration can't be trusted, the katakana even says ELDER TAIL (エルダーテイル) in that logo -- [[User:LiTTleDRAgo|LiTTleDRAgo]]  ([[User_talk:LiTTleDRAgo|Talk]]) 10:25, 19 November 2013 (CST)

::Doesn't that also apply to Maryelle/Marielle? Especially when Henrietta calls "ma-ri-e"? 
::I realize I'm coming across as hard-headed, but really what I would like are clear guidelines, much like this page, so that there is consistency. Otherwise, who's to say which interpretation of whatever name is better? For instance, we use Eastal, but why not Ystal, or Iistal? Why Freedom Cities instead of Liberty Cities (GTA!)? 

::It's hard to look to anime subtitles for clarity either, because as Crunchyroll has demonstrated, they are not consistent either. They switched from Catastrophe to Apocalypse, while we went the other way. (Which makes more sense to me, as one is just a terrible event, while the other refers to the end of the world).

::And of course, how much stock do you want to put into the pronunciation of a foreign word (to the Japanese)? Other examples might be how they never use the plural form of the classes: Sorcerer, Samurai, Guardian, Summoner, etc... Even when they talk about multiples of them, they'll never append on the "s" sound, because that's not how the language works. They'll just say something like "There were three sorcerer." This same problem is the reason for so many grammatical errors in the original translations, because neither Japanese or Chinese alter words for singular versus plural. "Person has 1 car." "3 person has 5 car."

::In the end, we have to use our best judgement most of the time. But if ever the original source material provides an answer, I have difficulty going against it. Now, if the source material ever starts to contradict itself, then it becomes a murky issue again (though I would probably side with the latest form).

::--[[User:Rasen|Rasen]] ([[User talk:Rasen|talk]]) 10:52, 19 November 2013 (CST)

*Doesn't that also apply to Maryelle/Marielle? Especially when Henrietta calls "ma-ri-e"?
:For now, let's leave her name as it is, but for her nickname, we use Marie / Mari-nee / etc as we see fit. 
:Of course if everyone want to use Marielle rather than Maryel / Maryele, I wont object (look at point 3)

*For instance, we use Eastal, but why not Ystal, or Iistal? Why Freedom Cities instead of Liberty Cities (GTA!)? 
:In the anime series, there are maps in next episode preview that says "League of Freedom Cities Eastal"

*In the end, we have to use our best judgement most of the time. But if ever the original source material provides an answer, I have difficulty going against it. Now, if the source material ever starts to contradict itself, then it becomes a murky issue again (though I would probably side with the latest form).
:The wiseman says: '''''[http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=6001&start=120#p214733 You don't have to follow the novel's (Note: this series is actually a novel, not a light novel) English spelling. If you feel another spelling is just much preferable, just go for it.]'''''
:In other words, we may follow the original/consistent as possible with any official sources, but it's not a must.
-- [[User:LiTTleDRAgo|LiTTleDRAgo]]  ([[User_talk:LiTTleDRAgo|Talk]]) 22:09, 19 November 2013 (CST)