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This page describes Baka-Tsuki's default policy towards '''machine translations'''.  
This page describes Baka-Tsuki's default policy towards '''machine translations'''.  


Please note that this policy is a <span style="color:red;">'''convention'''</span>—individual translation projects may have stricter or more relaxed policies with regards to machine translations. Please check '''Project-Specific Guidelines''' to learn more about your project's stance on machine translations. All members should follow these guidelines by default.
Please note that this policy is a <span style="color:red;">'''convention'''</span>—in some cases, individual translation projects may have stricter policies with regards to machine translations. Please check '''Project-Specific Guidelines''' to learn more about your project's stance on machine translations. All members should follow these guidelines by default.


==Definition of Machine Translations==
==Definition of a Machine Translation==
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''Henceforth, the <b>act of machine translating</b> is defined as the conversion of a <b>sentence or phrase</b> of <b><span style="color:red;">more than 8 characters</span></b> (in Japanese, Chinese, Korean, etc.) into another language via a <b>translating program</b> (babel, ATLAS, google, etc).''
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==Guidelines==


'''1. Any translation performed with a heavy reliance on machines for more than 1/2 of the text will be considered as a machine translation script.'''


This is a general guideline for ~Preview~ scripts submitted using machine translations:
:* This also includes romaji translations and other kinds of work done by people who obviously depend on unreliable methods to produce a translation.


Scripts employing this method are not unwelcome, but are restricted to guidelines and unfortunately cannot be submitted as "official" scripts.
'''2. Machine translations may not be added to the wiki without prior approval.  Users wishing to add machine translations may do so in the appropriate [https://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=85 machine translation sandbox forum].'''


We can only allow machine translated scripts to be presented as ~Preview~ scripts. This is due to the consensus of the wiki-communist state of Baka-Tsuki concluding that the quality of machine translation has yet to rival human translators. The representation of machine translation should not be acknowledged as "official" scripts to risk Baka-Tsuki's reputation upon.  
:* All machine translations on the wiki will be tagged as such, but tagging the page does not exempt it from requiring approval.
:* At the moment, external links to MTL are not eligible for approval and therefore may not be added.


However, with the improvement of software and technology, Baka-Tsuki is hopeful that the quality of machine translations will improve and that we should not dismiss this method of translation. The current generation of machine translators are still useful for helping human translators reference and give a general idea of the layout and/or to help translate bulk parts of text.
'''3. In cases where machine translation has been thoroughly checked and revised by someone with a solid understanding of source language, it may be granted approval by administration to be added to the wiki.'''


The best machine translator we have currently reviewed is called "[http://www.fujitsu.com/global/products/software/packaged-software/translation/ Atlas]". We encourage all contributors who wish to help using machine translation to use this current engine.
:* In addition to approval by administration, the project manager must also give consent.
:* If a user thinks their text will meet approval, they should submit a request to the [[Help:Administration_Contact_Page|administration contact page]] and give a link to the translated text in the forums.  Administration will contact the user via the wiki talk page or private message in the forums.
:* Administration will likely have the machine translation script checked/approved by a senior translator, and will ask the user questions before granting approval.
:* The content will be checked based on the immediate language it was translated from, and translated into.
:::e.g. Japanese -> Chinese -> English script.
::::Japanese to English could be checked.
::::Chinese to English could be checked.
::::Japanese to Chinese will not be checked.  


While other software and "online" translators are not dismissed, please be aware that they have less of an ability to translate the correct context of a script compared to "Atlas".
:* There needs to be people who not only contribute to make the translation faithful, but also a respected translator who obviously knows his stuff to check if the work has been done right.
:* Still, this is just the minimum acceptable. If a project manager thinks that the minimum acceptable is not good enough, he's free to forbid machine translation scripts.


They will, as mentioned in the first sentence, require a lot of editing as the general context of the dialog and background may be severely damaged by the engine's translation.
'''4. Chapters that fail to meet the requirements will be deleted permanently.'''


Editors are advised to seek human translator consultancy over these machine translations to review/conduct a general analysis for integrity and contextual coherency within the volume/series.
:* This is non-negotiable. For the translators who would like to want their work back though, we may help you for that. But anyway, a machine translation script that doesn't meet the minimum required will be deleted.
:* Existing machine translated chapters may or may not be removed on a case by case basis.


Authors using Machine Translated Scripts are advised to take the following actions:
'''5. Approved chapters will be tagged clearly as a machine translation script.'''


1) Post machine translated scripts on the [http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/ Forum] for examination.
:* No more confusion surrounding machine translation script. A -MTL name extension will be added to every chapter, in addition to a template, <nowiki>{{MTL}}</nowiki>, indicating that the script has been produced by a machine (the "Preview" tag and template should no longer be used).
::*Machine translated chapters existing prior to this policy that have not been reviewed should also receive the -MTL name extension, however they should include the template <nowiki>{{MTL-old}}</nowiki> instead of <nowiki>{{MTL}}</nowiki>, which includes a note that they have not been reviewed by this policy.


2) The script must be consulted by a human Translator that can conduct a general proofreading of the script with the original raw(s) used for it (in the same language used, if possible ).
'''6. Any chapter done by a machine can be overwritten by a human translator.'''


3) All machine translated script needs an approval by a Baka-Tsuki Staff member before being published on the wiki.
:* Unless it's a translator guess-lating and inventing stuff out of blue, a human translator who shows the ability and the effort can overwrite the machine translation script with his own work.


4) Machine translations must be placed in a page with "~Preview~" in the title.


5) The link must clearly state it is a "~Preview~" and must be placed next to the non-hyperlinked title on the appropriate series page.
Once a machine translated script has fulfilled all the requirements as shown by the guidelines, please be aware that the script will become Baka-Tsuki Wiki-communist state property.
 
6) The beginning of the page must contain the following:
 
 
CODE: SELECT ALL
Chapter [number/Symbol] - [title of chapter here]


Baka-Tsuki staff have the final authority to remove the script, provided that they have fully transparent and accountable reasons.
===Templates===
*[[Template:MTL]] for machine translated chapters that receive approval to be added to the wiki
*[[Template:MTL-old]] for machine translated chapters that were posted prior to the implantation of this policy and have not been reviewed or approved.


''This is a preview script.
Please be aware that the degree of translation error may be higher than usual due to the translation speed & method employed.''
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7) The Author of the Machine translation must register their Wiki username on the appropriate series registration page, clearly stating that it is for the preview script.
Once a Preview script has fulfilled all the requirements as shown by the guidelines, please be aware that the script will become a part of the Baka-Tsuki Wiki-communist state property.
Baka-Tsuki staff have the final authority to remove the script, provided that they have fully transparent and accountable reasons.
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Latest revision as of 00:29, 21 July 2015

This page is a DRAFT.

Please use caution. There many be inaccurate or incomplete material.

This page describes Baka-Tsuki's default policy towards machine translations.

Please note that this policy is a convention—in some cases, individual translation projects may have stricter policies with regards to machine translations. Please check Project-Specific Guidelines to learn more about your project's stance on machine translations. All members should follow these guidelines by default.

Definition of a Machine Translation

Henceforth, the act of machine translating is defined as the conversion of a sentence or phrase of more than 8 characters (in Japanese, Chinese, Korean, etc.) into another language via a translating program (babel, ATLAS, google, etc).

Guidelines

1. Any translation performed with a heavy reliance on machines for more than 1/2 of the text will be considered as a machine translation script.

  • This also includes romaji translations and other kinds of work done by people who obviously depend on unreliable methods to produce a translation.

2. Machine translations may not be added to the wiki without prior approval. Users wishing to add machine translations may do so in the appropriate machine translation sandbox forum.

  • All machine translations on the wiki will be tagged as such, but tagging the page does not exempt it from requiring approval.
  • At the moment, external links to MTL are not eligible for approval and therefore may not be added.

3. In cases where machine translation has been thoroughly checked and revised by someone with a solid understanding of source language, it may be granted approval by administration to be added to the wiki.

  • In addition to approval by administration, the project manager must also give consent.
  • If a user thinks their text will meet approval, they should submit a request to the administration contact page and give a link to the translated text in the forums. Administration will contact the user via the wiki talk page or private message in the forums.
  • Administration will likely have the machine translation script checked/approved by a senior translator, and will ask the user questions before granting approval.
  • The content will be checked based on the immediate language it was translated from, and translated into.
e.g. Japanese -> Chinese -> English script.
Japanese to English could be checked.
Chinese to English could be checked.
Japanese to Chinese will not be checked.
  • There needs to be people who not only contribute to make the translation faithful, but also a respected translator who obviously knows his stuff to check if the work has been done right.
  • Still, this is just the minimum acceptable. If a project manager thinks that the minimum acceptable is not good enough, he's free to forbid machine translation scripts.

4. Chapters that fail to meet the requirements will be deleted permanently.

  • This is non-negotiable. For the translators who would like to want their work back though, we may help you for that. But anyway, a machine translation script that doesn't meet the minimum required will be deleted.
  • Existing machine translated chapters may or may not be removed on a case by case basis.

5. Approved chapters will be tagged clearly as a machine translation script.

  • No more confusion surrounding machine translation script. A -MTL name extension will be added to every chapter, in addition to a template, {{MTL}}, indicating that the script has been produced by a machine (the "Preview" tag and template should no longer be used).
  • Machine translated chapters existing prior to this policy that have not been reviewed should also receive the -MTL name extension, however they should include the template {{MTL-old}} instead of {{MTL}}, which includes a note that they have not been reviewed by this policy.

6. Any chapter done by a machine can be overwritten by a human translator.

  • Unless it's a translator guess-lating and inventing stuff out of blue, a human translator who shows the ability and the effort can overwrite the machine translation script with his own work.


Once a machine translated script has fulfilled all the requirements as shown by the guidelines, please be aware that the script will become Baka-Tsuki Wiki-communist state property.

Baka-Tsuki staff have the final authority to remove the script, provided that they have fully transparent and accountable reasons.

Templates

  • Template:MTL for machine translated chapters that receive approval to be added to the wiki
  • Template:MTL-old for machine translated chapters that were posted prior to the implantation of this policy and have not been reviewed or approved.