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===<span style="color:purple">A CRITIQUE FOR VALLOR: DATE A LIVE</span>=== <div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" data-collapsetext="Hide" data-expandtext="Show"> :+ I liked how you adapted the code specifically for the Date A Live page. Specifically the Master Toggle and choice of colours. :+ I liked how you acknowledged where you adapted the code from. No one asked you to do that. I was impressed by your courtesy. :- I didn't like how single volumes were given their own wikitable. Even if I am lenient about 2-part story arcs, I can't agree with its use for single volume story arcs.. :- I didn't like the fact that every single side story was given its own wikitable. Along with the previous point, excessive use of wikitables is not advised because it looks cluttered. This goes back to the first 3 guidelines. These edits are not appropriate for the Date A Live page. You could at least group all the side stories into one wikitable. :- 'Return to ToC' links should be removed. They are not approriate for the Date A Live page. :'''Suggestion''': Do something similar to the Index page and group novels by anime seasons. Put novels 1-4 in a table titled Season 1 Novels, put novels 5-7 in a table titled Season 2 Novels, Put Novels 8-9(+10) in table with a title of your own choosing, Put the side stories into one table. Then modify your Master Toggle and remove any Back to Contents links. This way there will only be 4 wikitables to deal with. Again its entirely up to you whether you go ahead with the edits. Just keep the guidelines and feedback in your mind while doing so. If possible, have whoever originally wanted to edit the Date A Live page look at this talk page. Remember to spread the word about the guidelines as well. '''--[[User:OH&S|OH&S]] ([[User talk:OH&S#top|talk]]) 03:11, 9 March 2014 (CDT)''' Such a loooooong answer! ^^<br> First, thank you for taking the time to reply me. I'm fully aware that your template is not adapted to 'little' pages like the ''Date A Live'''s, but someone asked me if I could reduce the size of the DAL page, advised me to see the Toaru page and I liked the way you have used so much that I came to ask you the right to make a quite similar thing right after. Excuse me if I don't talk about all the bunch of things you said, I don't have very much to say except I'm agree with most of them.<br> I'll comment your remarks now (in the same order):<br> + Thank you.<br> + I'm not agree. I mean, I would feel very bad if I had just copied your code and changed only 2-3 things here and there. More, I would feel very angry if someone did that with one of my creations. You spent (a long) time (surely) on this work, and it's nothing but a theft to copy it and say 'Yeah, I'm the creator of this'. I don't think like that and that's why I came to ask you before do any change in the DAL page, and why I put your name. Be sure that I'll write your handle (and not only in the commentaries) clearly. ;) (By the way, since I began to (largely) be inspired by your work, I always said that I don't want thanks; they are for you)<br> - Yeah, I know... Because of the small length of the page, the only possibilities we had was to sort the volumes: * like that (1-2 volumes an arc) * like the anime's scheme (4-5 volumes an arc)<br> As we had some troubles with illogical color arrangements, we decided to do the way you can see right now.<br> - I think there are too many side stories to gather them under a single banner. (I always wanted to say that. :D)<br> - They have been deleted two days ago. Or yesterday, depending on your location... <br><br> Whatever my decision, if I decide to put the simili-template (that I'll try to make better) on the DAL page, you'll be the first one who will be informed of it, in the event of you're agree I use it of course.<br> Maybe we we'll see each other again!<br> (PS: I might have made some mistakes. I'm not very comfortable with long English written expressions, sorry.) ::[[User:Vallor|Vallor]] ([[User talk:Vallor|talk]]) 07:47, 9 March 2014 (CDT) Hello, I am the one that proposed the clean-up of the Date A Live Wiki page.<br> <br><br> First of all, you have a good point here, DAL is not as long as Index, so it may not be worth of it, but I still want to try implement this new system, first because I liked it, and liked how it works(Found lot easier than the normal way), secondly because it really does reduce the size of the page, that is my complain now.<br> Second, DAL have a page that is not long enough, for now, but we have already 15 volumes(Counting SS) and we will be getting 16th this month, and maybe even reaching 18~20 volumes this year depending on how the author wake up every morning. That means that soon enough we will be getting bigger, so will hurt anyone if we implement it? (If you say that we can't we won't lol)<br> Third, I thought that books should be organized as books, not as anime seasons, but after reading what you said, I realized that what I really wanted to implement on the first time I typed that messages in the forum, I think now that organizing in anime seasons is not as bad as I thought before.<br> Fourth, I know there are pages more suited to receive a code similar to yours on their page, but well, I think this way, (I don't want to sound like a douch but) every page has a supervisor and an admin(Except for DAL), and if they don't say anything is because they are satisfied with the page how it is now, and as DAL doesn't have any responsible staff, I felt like if it was bothering me, I should act, and what was bothering me was that the page was growing a big mess, the implementation of the code is a consequence of the clean-up. Well, I hope that you understand what I said, and I didn't mess up in what I wrote(Just woke up). Best regards :[[User:Nura rihan|γγͺγ³]] ([[User talk:Nura rihan|talk]]) 10:09, 9 March 2014 (CDT) </div>
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