Editing Talk:Spice & Wolf:Volume1 Prologue (section)

== Discussion ==

:Does rhymy work here? These three lines in the Japanese text seem verse-like. [[User:AlephNull|AlephNull]] 09:06, 10 February 2008 (PST)
:"The autumn sky, so high, so clear". It sounds cooler, don't you think? :D It's a good choice to use rhymes here, but... we need a rhyme for the last line >< --[[User:ShApEsHiFt3r|ShApEsHiFt3r]] 01:48, 15 February 2008 (PST)

:: The text literally says that the sky is high (not necessarily very high) and very clear, so I'd like to make 'clear' stronger than 'high'. As for making the last line rhyme as well, I don't think it's necessary, since I think it's sufficiently verse-like as it is. Also, the last line in the Japanese text sounds conclusive, if we make the last line in the translation not rhymy, it may sound more conclusive as well. I dunno though (not like I read Japanese, or even English poetry :g), if you have any ideas on how to make the last line rhyme, we can see if it fits. - [[User:AlephNull|AlephNull]] 11:42, 18 February 2008 (PST)

::: ok what the writer is trying to say when he says the sky is high is that there are no clouds so it appears "high". - [[User:Tsuyuri|Tsuyuri]] 02:02, 25 feb 2008 (GMT +8)

: Is that explicitly stated by the writer, or just an inference? If the line were 秋の空は高'''い'''、とても澄んでいた instead, I would understand it as simply 'The autumn sky is high, it is very clear [lit: had turned cloudless]', but with the sky being clear implying nothing about it appearing high. Such an implication may be formed by a reader, but the text itself wouldn't suggest it. Do you mean that the author's use of 高く instead of 高い indicates an implication? Also, in general, what's the difference between (subject)は(adjective) and (subject)は(verb), where the adjective and verb both have the same stem? - [[User:AlephNull|AlephNull]] 03:51, 27 February 2008 (PST)

: Ok, I have a feeling that you misunderstood me ^^`. I'm not saying "The autumn sky, so high, so clear." should be like that, because it's grammatically right, but rather because it sounds better. Didn't think a simple suggestion would lead to so much discussion :P --[[User:ShApEsHiFt3r|ShApEsHiFt3r]] 04:07, 27 February 2008 (PST)

: Actually, I prefer the rhythm of 'The high autumn sky, so clear'. It fits closer to that of the text, and IMO better with the other two lines as they are now. Also, even if they both sounded equally good (and all other things equal), I'd prefer to stick with a translation that's closer to the original meaning and structure. And, er, I '''want''' much discussion. - [[User:AlephNull|AlephNull]] 03:49, 29 February 2008 (PST)