Editing Talk:Spice & Wolf:Volume1 Chapter 01 (section)

== Discussion ==

(1)  What about "A pleasure doing business with you _again_." instead, i.e. does 毎度 imply any previous patronage? 
: How about "as always"? まいど=each time. For example - As always, it's a pleasure doing business with you. --[[User:ShApEsHiFt3r|ShApEsHiFt3r]] 01:47, 15 February 2008 (PST)

: Yeah, "as always" is better. I originally took some liberties with the translation, given the villager's response and 'the pleasure is mine as well' being an English expression. Thinking about it some more though, I think I'll stick with a more literal translation. - [[User:AlephNull|AlephNull]] 12:00, 18 February 2008 (PST)
 
(2)  Is やり取り barter trade? Is おかわし end?

: かわし= to exchange, yaritori is indeed barter trade. so やり取りおかわし should be barter trade exchange. --[[User:ShApEsHiFt3r|ShApEsHiFt3r]] 02:35, 15 February 2008 (PST)

(3)  The second sentence doesn't make sense. If it was cold then it wouldn't be ridiculous that winter is coming, but it isn't cold, but rather it's pleasant/good/nice as stated in the first sentence... I have no idea how that should be translated though. 

: It can be fair and windless and still cold. Note that fair means sunny and not cloudy, but not necessarily warm. - [[User:AlephNull|AlephNull]] 12:00, 18 February 2008 (PST)

: Momogan pointed out that the second sentence is in the past tense, i.e. it was cold previously, but the good weather now makes Lawrence's previous thought that winter was near seem like a lie. I don't think it's a very far back past tense, since later on Lawrence tells the knight that he went to the mountain village and is now returning, i.e. it was at most a few days ago when he previously was at this place and thought that winter was near. In fact, it could also be that it was cold when he first descended to the plains, but is now good weather. Also, I'm gonna go with the more literal 'fine weather', rather than the more interpreted 'fair weather'. - [[User:AlephNull|AlephNull]] 17:08, 19 February 2008 (PST)

: Rearranged the second and third sentences a bit. What do you think? --[[User:ShApEsHiFt3r|ShApEsHiFt3r]] 12:27, 25 February 2008 (PST)

: It seems good to me...I just want to point out that Lawrence is coming from high altitudes in the mountains, where I'm sure it's quite cold. So from there, to where he is now, the "previous" cold that had made it seem as though winter were approaching, was a lie, as it was the cold of the mountains, not the "true" temperature of the times. What do you think? The second possibility is this: ここのところ is roughly "this place" and 寒かった is a past tense of being cold, meaning roughly "was cold", so it can almost be something like, (This is how I wrote it in my .doc file. [["This place had been colder earlier, and with the good weather now, it seemed thinking that winter would be coming soon was a lie.]] I wrote an allusion back to the previous sentance, to clear any confusions.It does seem to be more of this way, from Lawrence going back through the area for the second time, returning somewhere as Alph has stated. Ideas?--[[User:Seaghyn16|Seaghyn16]]


: "Don't mention it, the pleasure is mine as well." Don't merchants usually say "The pleasure is all mine"? I think that should be the case here as well. --[[User:ShApEsHiFt3r|ShApEsHiFt3r]] 02:28, 15 February 2008 (PST)