Editing Talk:Mushoku Tensei Names and Terminology (section)

== Roxy "Shisho" or "Master"? ==

Preferably "Master" since we have been going with "Master" or "Grandmaster" for certain titles, so i would like to keep it consistent.

Onizuka-GTO 23:03, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

there was a small talk about it on codebreaker talk page. to quote  dark kaito "Just to throw this out as well if you've been changing shishou to master, I'd suggest avoiding it volume 7+, it might get mixed up with how Juli uses the Engrish word Master and Grandmaster to refer to Zanoba & Rudeus later, while Zanoba refers to Rudeus with the Japanese shishou same as Rudeus refers to Roxy. I don't think Zanoba wants you assuming he is Juli's Master (shishou) even though he is her Master. And you don't want to make Zanoba angry."

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Yeah, Zanoba refers to Rudeus as shisho, and tells Julie to refer to himself as Master and Rudeus as Grand Master.

The way Rudeus refers to Roxy is different depending on when/where he uses it... sometimes it's shisho, sometimes it's sensei, other times it's kami. That one is a bit harder in her regard... I personally think sensei works the best for Rudeus referring to Roxy, I can't specifically remember how I've translated it... but I'd suggest sensei or shisho for Roxy. --[[User:Dark Kaito|Dark Kaito]] ([[User talk:Dark Kaito|talk]]) 23:45, 5 August 2014 (CDT)

I see, it make sense to make a difference from "Master" that is to Julie and "Kami" is given, so lets just settle for "Sensei" then, it's at least something English readers are familiar with that has a martial connotation (Besides "Sifu").
Onizuka-GTO 04:02, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

You can't make it sensei. There's a different in connotation between 'sensei' and 'shishou'. Imagine having both as 'sensei' and then reading the conversation where Roxy tells Rudy to call her 'sensei' and not 'shishou'.

I can understand your wish to simplify things for people with zero exposure to Japanese culture, but it just won't work in some cases, and sensei and shishou are completely different. It'd be like writing all instances of 'oiran' as 'geisha' in a story about Kabukichou. How well do you think this is gunna go? 

Also it's just a personal preference, but would it be possible to use 'shishou' (or 'shishō' if you're insistent on looking professional)? [[User:Vanant|Vanant]] ([[User talk:Vanant|talk]]) 06:11, 6 August 2014 (CDT)

Seems like it's more complexed then i though, personally i'm not completely sure what's the difference between a "sensei" and a "shishou".

But i'll take your word for it, lets just leave it at "Shishou" then.

Onizuka-GTO 19:58, 6 August 2014 (CDT)