Editing Talk:Golden Time (section)

== The Summary   >:0 ==

''The girl then whacked Mitsuo across the face with the bouquet and handed the flowers over to him. “Freshman, congratulations”, was all she said, and then she left. The stylish, well dressed, perfect woman that had swung at Mitsuo was his childhood friend, Kaga Kouko. As children they had promised to marry each other one day, fulfilling their dreams. '''In order to escape from her, Mitsuo had gone out secretly and taken the examination for this well known private college, but now she showed up in the freshman orientation hall. She too had taken the law school entrance examination, catching up with him there.''''' 

For  the life of me I do not know what is going on here. Especially the bold  part. Who did what to escape from whom and why? If I am to interpret it  as literally as possible, the main guys childhood friend Kouko is in  love with the girl he met with while he was lost (mitsuo) and that's why  she slapped that girl bcuz she was with the main guy, thus causing a  misunderstanding? And Mitsuo has apparently been trying to escape from  her and that's why she secretly took the law school exam? But Kouko also  took the exam and stalked her? 
I think someone must have gotten  names mixed up, not just that, male and female pronouns also. Well this  is pissing me off. The summary is kind of important guys, I wonder how  many people have been scared off by this incomprehensible mess? I am  going to rework the damn thing so it at least makes sense.

Okay, I fixed it up and now I think it is 100% accurate. Unfortunately this appears to have been machine translated or something since there are a ridiculous amount of grammar errors. Particularly with third person pronouns. I merely scanned chapter 1 and found myself even more confused than before. I cannot even tell which characters are male and which are female, it changes sometimes within a single sentence. This is the version I fixed-

''Tada Banri, a newly admitted student at a private law school in Tokyo, found himself completely lost after the opening ceremony, trying to find his way to the freshman orientation. At that moment, he ran into another lost freshman from the same school, Yanagisawa Mitsuo, and they hit it off at once. Somehow arriving at their intended goal just on time, there appeared in front of the two a beautiful girl holding a bouquet of roses. The girl then whacked Mitsuo across the face with the bouquet and handed the flowers over to her. “Freshman, congratulations”, was all she said, and then she left. The stylish, well dressed, perfect woman that had swung at Mitsuo was her childhood friend, Kaga Kouko. As children they had promised to marry each other one day, fulfilling their dreams. In order to escape from her, Mitsuo had gone out secretly and taken the examination for this well known private college, but now Kouko showed up in the freshman orientation hall. She too had taken the law school entrance examination, catching up with her there.''

To see what I changed follow this link, both old and new summary plus changes are shown.
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Golden_Time&diff=prev&oldid=101284

It actually looks like someone purposefully went in and screwed shit up, since the summary written above under the "things to do" subsection is accurate, but not the one shown on the project page. I would appreciate it if someone else would make sure everything is right.--[[User:Blackfaia|Blackfaia]] 01:53, 17 June 2011 (UCT)

:No, the summary is correct. Think of Kouko as the most self-center  person you've ever met. Although she means no harm, she ignores  everything that's not part of her 'grand scheme of life'. This involves  ignoring all Mitsuo's wishes for her to leave him alone. She would be a  terrifying stalker, if not for her apparently out of this world beauty,  demeanor, and (at least on the surface) self confidence.
:She is  literally 'cry all you want, but you will be my lover in the grand  scheme of my life and there is NOT A SINGLE DAMN THING YOU CAN DO ABOUT  IT. You can run but you can't hide' Mitsuo, for his part, while  initially like her, has been agitated and eventually loath the way she  ignores, yet cling to his live (and according to him, ruined everything  in it).
:It's hard for me to describe her- if you read the book you would know what I mean.  --[[Special:Contributions/69.165.129.77|69.165.129.77]] 02:39, 17 June 2011 (UCT)

:Perhaps you should read the story before judging the summary (or more accurately, the teaser).  Your edits showed that you thought that Mitsuo was a girl, but the second large color illustration foldout shows him very clearly male.  If you read our forum thread on this story, however, you will see that we were far from clear as to the gender of Banri at first.  Even my Japanese friends weren't clear on it.  But the reason for the confusion lies in the story itself: before his accident, Banri was much more outgoing and playful than your typical Japanese male of his age, to the point where a female Japanese friend of mine thought he was a she.  Worse, after his accident, his memories from before are gone, and good deal of his male personality too . . . gone to "Banri's Ghost", who follows him around all the time and watches what is going on, but who nobody can see.  Anyway, while it is true that a better introduction could probably be written, I have simply translated the summary that was posted on the Japanese Wiki page about the story.  That introduction only barely touches upon the events of chapter one, and leaves the supernatural elements entirely alone.  Nor does it hint at the love triangle that will shortly be developing.  In this, I was simply honoring the intentions of the publishers themselves.  --[[User:Rpapo|Rpapo]] 10:37, 17 June 2011 (UCT)

:FWIW, the prologue and first chapter in particular have been heavily reviewed by many people, including 4-5 native speakers of the Japanese language.  Though I myself am still only an intermediate level translator, there are several very good ones following along and pointing out problems with the text as I go.  I believe we are getting the story more or less correct.  Perhaps not the best, most flowing English, but reasonably correct.  --[[User:Rpapo|Rpapo]] 10:59, 17 June 2011 (UCT)

:FWIW2, Kouko was indeed stalking Mitsuo.  Mitsuo secretly took the entrance examinations to the law school in an attempt to escape from her, but somebody clued her in and she took the same exams in order to follow him.  Mitsuo had just got done rejoicing in his new freedom to Banri when she appeared out of nowhere and assaulted him with the bouquet of roses.  --[[User:Rpapo|Rpapo]] 11:06, 17 June 2011 (UCT)