Editing Suzumiya Haruhi:Guideline (section)

==Common Japanese Terms==


The following terms will be considered well known enough to be used raw (without translation) - they'll be linked to a "Translator's Notes/Reference" section (to be discussed).

'''-san, -senpai, etc'''

:Japanese Honorifics are well known (note the spelling of "-se'''n'''pai" - not "-se'''m'''pai") though of course we should mention them in a Reference section in case someone happens to be unfamiliar.

'''Moe'''

:While its exact definition could be debated on, "turn-on factor" is a nice catch-all translation of it. It sounds a bit clunky in regular conversation though, so we'll use "Moe" in the text and link to another Translation Note explaining it.

--[[User:Psieye|Psieye]] 08:03, 27 April 2006 (PDT)

:Why not just use "cute", "hot", or "sexy" for "Moe", as the situation requires? Both are much less akward than "turn-on factor", which a native speaker would never use in the same situations. 
--[[User:Kerry|Kerry]] 16:22, 1 November 2006 (PST)

**'''Translator Notes:'''


Se''m''pai is not necessarily wrong. I remember in my Japanese-classes that sometimes the ''n'' sound becomes an ''m'' before certain sounds. Examples like te''m''pura, shi''m''bun. When written, it is spelled with an ''n'', since the written ''m'' doesn't exist in Japanese, but it's pronounced with a ''m'' sound. An English analogy would be Leicester, prounounced as "Lester" and not "Ley-ces-ter", Warwick pronounced as "War-rick" and not "War-wick".

As for why I used "turn-on factor", as not everyone who reads the translation is familiar with otaku terminology, and I don't want to leave them out of it.

--[[User:Kinny Riddle|Kinny Riddle]] 00:11, 29 April 2006 (HKT)

The "m" is just a way to romanize the word to english, just for consistency people prefer to keep the "n" there. If those words are said fast in everyday conversation it's hard to say the "n" sound without emphasizing it so it is commonly just spelt as an "m" for people who do not know the language and try to pronounce the word.