Editing Talk:Maria-sama ga Miteru

== Volume Number Mismatch ==

The numbering of the volumes doesn't seem to match the official numbering (see bottom of the page with the ISBN list). This is rather confusing. Maybe the illustration and premium book could be listed (as short hint) at the correct places in the overview and volume numbers adjusted to the official order?

Also when one clicks the "Full Text" the following pages should include the volume title again, e.g. I click on "Full Text" after "Volume 17 - Ciao Sorella! " then there should be a headline on the following full text page "Volume 17: Ciao Sorella!". Some of the earlier translations add this (albeit only below the table of content and not above). Would be nice if this was generally done and above the Table of Content section.

''Anyway… just some small things, besides that: great work. Can't wait for the rest (I'm checking here every month for updates. It's in my calendar ;) )''

:Hello there! Thank you for taking the time to reach out to us.
:Regarding the volume numbering, I think this is actually a good idea. There are indeed 39 published volumes, with 37 of those being what you see here. I chose to include the ISBN of all 39 because I wanted to enable anyone looking for more information to be able to do so. That said, the volumes are in numerical order of appearance to prevent confusion, thinking that there might be a couple missing. Personally, I ''would'' like to have them numbered as their actual volume number. Perhaps we could use the special editions as placeholders as you suggested.

:Regarding the title of the volume appearing on the top of the full text page, this is done automatically in wikimedia. The URL dictates the title of the page, and we have a standard of how to list our projects. It is a great idea, though.
:--[[User:Leviticus|Leviticus]] ([[User talk:Leviticus|talk]]) 17:21, 11 March 2019 (CET)

:: I disagree on the volume numbering. The premium book and illustration collection are not light novels, and treating them as such would IMO lead to confusion given that this is a light novel translation site. From what I've seen, the Japanese versions themselves do not contain a volume number, eg. it's Maria-sama ga Miteru Farewell Bouquet, not Maria-sama ga Miteru 37/39 Farewell Bouquet - as such, the volume numbering is for our convenience, and I would rather it stay as the volume number in the light novel series.
:: If anything, I'd rather see the Premium Book / Illustration Collection pulled out into a separate Bonus/Extra/Other section to further highlight the fact that they're not light novels.
:: [[User:Enn are|Enn are]] ([[User talk:Enn are|talk]]) 22:45, 11 March 2019 (CET)

:::NR has the strongest argument here with respect to the volume ordering and numbers. We'll leave the list as-is for the time being, however I will be taking a second look at how the number of volumes and the ISBN are presented. --[[User:Leviticus|Leviticus]] ([[User talk:Leviticus|talk]]) 06:26, 20 March 2019 (CET)
::::'''UPDATE''' The volume list has been organized to reflect the separation of the literary novels and the two extras. --[[User:Leviticus|Leviticus]] ([[User talk:Leviticus|talk]]) 00:18, 11 November 2019 (CET)

== Dialogue ==

I was wondering if it would be possible to keep dialogue line and the explanatory author's line in the same paragraph. Because else it is a bit too confusing - someone speaks a complete thought, and then we are told who said it, but this two things seem unrelated.
If it is fine with you I would have liked to edit already translated chapters this way. Just punctuation, nothing else =)
-Iatheia

Umm, unless other people also find it confusing, I'd prefer to leave it as is, because of author's style.  So if anyone else feels the same, feel free to leave a message, as like an informal poll or something.  If it's a big enough problem we could open a poll in the forum instead, I guess.
-- [[User:Seki|Seki]]

It confused me a little at first, but I've since accepted that as the author's style and embrace it as such. So leave it as is! Great job, btw, I'm enjoying your translations! --Shikan

I didn't have a problem following the style and flow of dialogue lines from the get-go. I vote to leave it as is. You're doing great work and I really appreciate the time you put into this! Hope things have gotten better for you! -- HoodedZippy



==Illustrations==

Just wondering, have those novels no illustrations? Or were they left out because they would have been to much, or were there some other reasons? Like I said just wondering... --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 09:19, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

-Ah, I see they have illustrations but not all of those are added so if anyone who have those illustration feel free to add them. ;) --[[User:Darklor|Darklor]] 08:16, 16 December 2009 (UTC)



== Soeur vs Sœur ==

I've noticed that the first five translated volumes use sœur while as far as I can tell most of the later ones use soeur.  I prefer the more French style sœur anyone object to me changing them all to that so there is consistency across all the volumes?

Sukoshi also likes to use the French spelling for words.  It's problematic because most Americans can't read French (myself included), whereas the rest of the English-speaking has some familiarity with it.  I guess it's a good idea, since theoretically the Japanese loan word came from the French. If we do, I'll need to memorize the ASCII code for making that character. xD ~Rei

Often when French words appear in English texts they appear in italics. Would this also be a good idea?  ~Rei

I think I speak for most people here when I say, we just want to be able to read the story.  While Soeur is more visually appealing to my English eye, if you insist on the other, I don't think anyone will complain.  Proper French spelling aside, by this point we've long since come to recognize what it means anyway so I doubt it matters.   ~Molenir

Still, I think we should have consistency for the new readers. ~ Novium

:For the benefit of any future readers of this section, this topic has been settled. As can be found in the [[Maria-sama_ga_Miteru:Format|project specific guidelines]], 's&oelig;ur' has been set as the preferred spelling. [[User:Leviticus|Leviticus]] ([[User talk:Leviticus|talk]]) 06:44, 20 March 2019 (CET) <!-- years late but w/e :) -->

== What happen to volumes 15-19  & 21 ==

What happen to volumes 15-19  & 21? they disappeared!

The translator for those chapters requested that they be taken down, so they were. --[[User:Cthaeh|Cthaeh]] ([[User talk:Cthaeh|talk]]) 02:41, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

We have a couple of talented translators working on the series as of this writing. Those volumes will be replaced as soon as humanly possible. [[User:Lunar Vitae|Lunar Vitae]] ([[User talk:Lunar Vitae|talk]]) 05:05, 4 June 2016 (UTC)


== Stepping out ==

Hate doing this, but I'm gonna give up for at least two months.  I'm graduating in three months but I've got nowhere to go afterward... which is a big problem.  Hopefully I'll figure out what I'm going to do this summer and beyond, but until then translating isn't even at the back of my mind.  I just don't have the time nor presence of mind to do it right now... if I forced myself I wouldn't be paying the work enough respect, and I honestly would rather not have this hanging over my head.  Hopefully I'll figure things out in the next few months, and if/when I do (or if I end up being a rounin) I'll poke my head back in and see if I'm still needed.  Until then, gokigenyou, and thanks for putting up with all the difficulties.  When I started up I honestly thought I'd be able to go a volume a month, but I sorely underestimated how busy I'd become in my last year of university.

-[[User:Seki|Seki]]

good luck. we'll do our best. don't be surprised if things are still the same when you come back...
-AU

Thanks for all done novels, Seki. Wonderful job. I hope your life goes well and I cross my fingers for you.--[[User:Rinu|Rinu]] 23:10, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your translations, and best wishes regarding your life and future. Gokigenyou – rh



== Pointless words of praise and worship ==

Thanks for your hard work on volume 1 and 2, really looking forward to the rest of it. Good luck "powering through" all that!


Thanks for picking up this series. After 30+ novels, it didn't seem like anybody was ever going to translate it. Good luck working on it and please don't burn yourself out! ^^;;

- neoh


Thanks for translating. The novel really touched me. I went through 4 volume in just, I dunno, 2 days or something. I even print it out. --Azzura


I might be a late fan to Marimite but thanks so much for sticking with these novels and continuing to work on them for the past couple of years(!). I can't imagine how much work it has been. I wanted to let you all know that there are still those of us reading and enjoying them. I think I've read them all at least twice. These novels deserve to have the wider audience you are giving them. So thought I'd give some encouragement and to say I'm looking forward to hopefully reading novels 23-27 in the future. - bibliopowers (August 2011)


Thanks for your kind comments, it's always good to know that there are other people enjoying this too. [[User:Enn are|Enn are]] 16:39, 1 September 2011 (CDT)


Thanks for amazingly quick posts for Volume 31 Marguerite Ribbon! I'm really enjoying it so far. 
And the chapter "My Siblings" just made me cry like a baby. Thanks for posting this touching chapter.
-bibliopowers


I'd also like to add my thanks for all your efforts in translating this series.  I check in here every few days hoping for a new update, and am always thrilled to see a new bit has been translated.  I noticed volume 31 is done.  Can't wait to find out which you will translate next.  Please keep up the great work!
-Molenir (January 2012)


I just want to also say thank you to all who are working on this project
ANDARIAL  (APRIL 2012)


Volume 27 finished up so quickly!  Thank you very much.  I can't wait to find out which one you'll work on next. Part of me hopes you'll go to 26 and work backwards to 23, another part of me would love to see you go from 23 forward, and then another part of me would like to see Beloved times translated.  No Pressure!  :)  I'll be happy with whatever you decide.  Thank you for all your efforts.
-Molenir (April 2012)


Volume 10 complete!  Once again, thank you for all your efforts on our behalf.  It is very much appreciated.  I look forward to the next volume you choose to translate, with hope and anticipation. 
-Molenir (September 2012)


I just want to say thank you so much for the work that you've done with this series. I can't believe how quickly you finished Volume 10 and 11:) It's become a ritual for me to check Baka Tsuki every day just to see if Marimite has been updated. I would really appreciate it if you worked on volume 7 next seeing as I'm the type of person who will only read the series in order. If you have other plans that's fine too. Again, thank you for all your hard work. 
-Leednata120 (January 2013)


Just wanted to say thank very much you for the hard work of translating these novels. And I also hope that things will get better for you =).

-Yurine


Thanks for the fifth volume
We've waited for, like, eternity on this one.
Anyway, good job.

six months ain't that bad for one translator.
this isn't an anime/manga with visual context.
granted a majority of it was anime-d already,
but a lot of dialogue and descriptive narrative
is all based on the translator's interpretation of the novel.
hopefully other translators will join the cause.
-AlphaUltima


Thanks for translating  especially for quick posts for Volume 31, I am really liking it.  Which volume are you going to after volume 31? If possible could you do volume 34? --Maria

Welcome to the wiki, and thanks for your feedback. Unfortunately, I only have raws for Volumes 1-33, so can't translate Volume 34 at the moment. I'll probably work on Volume 27 next - it was suggested on the forum a while back (9 months? has it really been that long?). I've had a quick flip through it, and it looks good. [[User:Enn are|Enn are]] 06:46, 15 January 2012 (CST)


Hi, I'd like to add another huge thanks for finishing volume 31 so quickly, I so appreciate you taking the time to do this! I loved the book, especially Shimako's family story and the umbrella vignettes. As for volume 34, I have a copy and would be glad to send it to you as I have no translating skills. My understanding is that Yumi and Nana have a great conversation in that ribbon story and I had always hoped to be able to translate it someday. In any case, I'd be happy to give it up. Looking forward to volume 27, thanks again! -bibliopowers


Thanks Enn are for finishing volume 27! You will work on other volumes? Any idea of what you will pick up? GM


Thank you so much for finishing volume 27! I loved reading about the other dates that weren't depicted in the anime. I hope you will keep translating and start a new volume soon? I so appreciate your time and effort, a real gift to Marimite fans. Thanks for all the hard work! -bibliopowers


Thanks for translating volume 10 and volume 11 - yumi

Yes, thank you for 10 and for working on 11, such a key volume! -bibliopowers

Thank you for translating volume 7 so quickly --yumi

Also the Premium Book Answer was very nice, thanks  for translating it--yumi

Thanks for your support yumi and bibliopowers, I'm glad you're enjoying it [[User:Enn are|Enn are]] ([[User talk:Enn are|talk]]) 06:22, 13 May 2013 (CDT)


Thank you so much for translating this.  I check here, almost every day to see if you have posted another update, and when you do, it somehow always makes my day.  - Molenir May 25, 2013


Thank you for translating volume 8 so quickly!  any chance of doing Volume 34? --yumi

I'm probably not going to translate all of Volume 34 any time soon, although I've skimmed through the ribbon part and it looks pretty good so I might just do those sections at some point. [[User:Enn are|Enn are]] ([[User talk:Enn are|talk]]) 01:18, 22 September 2013 (CDT)


Thank you for translating volume 9, it's very nice  -- yumi


Thanks for translating volume 13, it very good -- yumi

Yes seconded. Thank You for finishing Volume 13.Any others planned? :)ANDARIAL


Thank you translating volume 14, it's great -- yumi


Thanks for translating volume 23, a great volume   -- yumi


Indeed Many Thanks for Translating this series :)   ANDARIAL (06 JUNE 2015)


And Thank You for Volume 24 :) ANDARIAL (15 NOV 2015)

Thank you for  translating volume 24 another great volume. -- yumi


Thank you for translating volume 25,  The volumes are always enjoyable, even when I know what is going to happen! I am also impressed at speed  of the translation.  -- yumi

Thank you for translating volume 26,  again,  the volumes are always enjoyable, even when I know what is going to happen. I have now been able to read volume 1-33 (apart from Volume 12) in English, thanks.  Is Rydenius still translating Volume 12?  ---yumi

:Hey yumi, thank you for the kind words! I actually spoke with Rydenius recently and he said he's still working on it, but other priorities are taking his time. If you have any other questions, feel free to write on my talk page or find me on our Discord server. --[[User:Lunar Vitae|Lunar Vitae]] ([[User talk:Lunar Vitae|talk]]) 04:07, 17 July 2017 (CEST)

Thank You for Volume 26 :) ANDARIAL (20 JULY 2017)

Can I ask what's next ?

Thanks for translating volume 17, Ziggr. It was nice to read, even when I read the previous translation before it was removed.   Your method of translating works  surprisingly well. —�- yumi

Yes indeed 
Many Thanks for finishing #17 :)ANDARIAL (26 OCT 2017)

Thank you for translating volume 12, Enn are,  I am enjoying it.  I now been able to read volumes 1-33, I am going to start reading them again now that I have access to the volumes without any gaps. It’s  probably too much too ask if you have plans to translate Volume 34.  Thanks again —- yumi

Been checking this page daily for years and it only occurred to me to say thanks now. So thanks for your amazing effort! - K

YES!Thank you very much for Volume 12 :)ANDARIAL

I am enjoying volume 34, thanks —- yumi

Little Horrors was a great story, thanks --- yumi


Just wanted to share my appreciation for all the hard work that has gone into translating this wonderful series. Thank you very much! - Tiber Septim (10 November 2018)

After reading the first part of Volume 37 I am excited to see what happens in the volume, thanks — yumi


Farewell Bouquet was a great story, thanks, I now been able to read the whole series (apart from the missing side stories)  again. Thanks again Eno are -- yumi

: Heheh, there's one last story between Yumi and Sachiko at the end of Farewell Bouquet that I intend to translate, and then I think I'll be done. I'm glad you've enjoyed it these last few years :) [[User:Enn are|Enn are]] ([[User talk:Enn are|talk]]) 13:31, 8 May 2019 (CEST)

:: Conversation over Fresh Herb Tea was great, thanks --- yumi

I've been following this page for about 6 or 7 years now, and would like to extend a long overdue thank you. Enn are, your translations are fabulous. I can't thank you enough for all the hard work you've put in, making this wonderful series available to all of us non Japanese readers. --[[User:Mausu|Mausu]] ([[User talk:Mausu|talk]]) 14:00, 23 May 2019 (CEST)

I would also like to give a overdue thank you have, I have been reading this for years, and have read the main plot now.

Yes Many Thanks to all who translated on this project :)
I take it that this translation is over now?  ANDARIAL JAN 2020

: Probably. I've translated a couple of pages of volume 15 recently, but it's been slow going, and I'm not sure I'll continue. [[User:Enn are|Enn are]] ([[User talk:Enn are|talk]]) 12:58, 22 January 2020 (CET)

Thank you for the update Enn and many thanks for all your hard work in translating this series :) ANDARIAL 26/01/20

Reading your translation of volume 15 chapter 1 was a nice surprise, thanks --- yumi

Nice to see you back at it Enn, hope all is well, and thanks again. Mausu

Amazing to see translation of this has resumed! Do you guys take donations? I would like to sponsor translation for all the missing chapters for $100, I really want to read all of it