Editing Talk:Toradora!:Volume1 Chapter2

I was wondering about which tense the story is supposed to be told in.  It seems like it keeps flipping between present and past.


I don't really know what it should be in, there are some sentences that can only make sense in one tense. It might be best to just translate each sentence by itself and use the tense used in the original. -Kelnos


''I agree, it seems better this way. - Mantarni''

I'm trying to put the narration into past tense. If a character is talking or thinking, I use present tense. This works, right? ~Dan

Dan's right, the narration should all be in past tense while the characters typically speak in the present tense.  It may seem strange that the author talks about events in the present as though they occurred in the past, but that's just how novels in English work.
-Akira

== Tl help ==

On this line in the very beginning of the second part of ch 2:

''That clumsy fellow incredibly tried to hide her arms and legs and squatted quietly there''

What does it mean? it seems like both of these would work:

1) ''Incredibly, that clumsy fellow...''

2) ''That incredibly clumsy fellow... ''

Thanks - Mantarni

I tried to retranslate it as below.  I think the adverb somehow got misplaced in the earlier translation.
I still don't know about tensing issues because most of the time it sounds better in past tense but the original tends to use the present or stative tense.  Since the nearby sentences went with past, I followed that trend.

''That clumsy fellow pulled in her limbs to become incredibly small and cosily squatted in such a compact size.''
[[User:Trabius|Trabius]] 19:08, 22 April 2008 (PDT)

Actually, it's fine as it was. The incredulous part was the action of trying to hide herself by pulling in her arms and legs. The idea is that it is incredulous that she even tried to hide herself in that situation. I believe that the original translation or option one is the best choice. -Kelnos

Also, what does this mean:
It was a light pink envelope. Is that kind of paper what they called [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washi washi]? There were lots of silvery cherry blossom patterns all over the semi-transparent paper.
The second sentence I cannot infer the meaning of. Should it be It is that kind of paper that they called/call..
or should it be Is it that kind... or is it something else entirely. -Kelnos

I guess it's fine if you think those are better but since 驚異的に comes right before 小さく丸め，wouldn't incredibly be modifying the adjective?  I would think that if it was describing the whole action that it would be placed at the beginning of the sentence.  If anyone knows for sure, I'd appreciate being informed because I'm trying to learn the nuances of translating.  Thanks and if I'm being nitpicky, sorry.  

About the second sentence, I didn't check but it seems like it's supposed to be slightly questioning, so maybe he's unsure of whether or not it is actually washi or not.  So more like your latter thought.  [[User:Trabius|Trabius]] 20:18, 22 April 2008 (PDT)

== Diction ('Fellow') ==
I'm just  a random reader yet I feel that Ryuuji constantly referring to Taiga as a 'fellow' is perhaps not the best choice of words. The tone just seems off and fellow, in my experience, has masculine connotations. - MatrixM


== What the hell? ==

Wtf is up Kenny, or whatever the hell your name is? I already claimed this chapter and was working on it! Hell, I even entered my name on the registration page in the first place...

Screw it, I was on it first, I'll just take your edits, integrate them with mine, and send it in. Steal crap from someone, will you... *grumbles*