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In the world of the Lillian Academy, Onee-sama has a specific usage.
  
   
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==Maria-sama ga Miteru Specific Formatting==
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Unlike normal schools, where you would refer to older girls you know as Onee-sama and use ''name''-sama for closer acquaintances; within Lillian, the opposite is true.
  
   
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===Maria-sama, Gokigenyou===
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For distant acquaintances, you use "name"-sama (or San as necessary)in normal use and "title"-sama when speaking to the Roses and their bouton. Only petite-soeur use Onee-sama (think of it as a title) and then only with their grand-soeur.
  
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In both of these cases I decided to keep the Japanese iteration. Part of it was a friend bugging me to stay true to the fan iteration of the series. I presume it was kept this way in the anime. I deliberately changed it in the prologue, however, as that felt like a more aloof, realistic and, yeah, specific description.
   
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In the same way, I decided to keep honorifics. -san, -sama, -sensei, unless they were intended to bring a point across "well aren't you a missy!" I don't know if I'll ever run across such an instance in this series, but I'm covering my bases with that heads-up.
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This is why Yumi always refers to Sachiko as Onee-sama, while everyone else in her year call her Sachiko-sama or Rosa-chinensis (en bouton). Early on in their soeur relationship, Yumi uses Sachiko-sama, and is told 'I won't respond if you don't call Me Onee-sama!'
  
   
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===Titles===
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Hope that clears up any misunderstanding.
  
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I kept all of the French titles. Rosa Chinensis, Gigantea, Foetida and the en boutons, as well as Rosa Canina and any other specific titles that crop up. I also kept grande sœur, sœur and petite sœur as they were.
   
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Onee-samas is one I struggled with. In Japanese it is written お姉さま方, which is a plural way of saying onee-sama. Onee-sama, incidentally, I counted as a title, as it was a specific way of calling someone. Yumi always calls Sachiko onee-sama - in fact they have a little, cute spat about this. She never calls anyone else specifically onee-sama. In like kind, I felt the usage of onee-samas, the plural, similar. You only really see this usage when it is someone referring to the Roses, but not calling them "the Roses."
   
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Imouto, however, I switched to little sister. I felt this was synonymous to senpai (upperclassmen), kouhai (underclassmen) and a broader usage of the word onee-sama (elder sisters).
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JBV^_^
  
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===Perspective===
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Most of the text is in third-person narrative, so I kept it that way. I've made sure as to keep as much of the text in this perspective, but the author had a tendency to switch into a very first-person-esque mode of speaking every now and then, so there's an abrupt switch into first-person for those moments.
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===Formality===
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I've done my best to make a distinction between when the characters are speaking formally and when they're not, but I'm not the best of speakers of "formal English." My guidelines are a bit rough, but I decided that, while it's a school for upper-class women, most of the students spoke quite casually to one another... particularly in the case of Yumi. Slang is out of the question, of course, but otherwise I kept her speech rather normal. A few characters, such as Rosa Gigantea, I had fun with, diving into slang and other such "immature" modes of speech, but for characters like Sachiko-sama (as well as certain "modes" for characters), I tried to maintain as formal an English as I could. This is definitely one I could use help on.
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===Words===
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There are a few recurring words that I ended up settling on. I'll add them to this list as I go.
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優雅 = Elegant.
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無垢 = Pure.
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華やか = Brilliant.
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結構 = Splendid.
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マリア様の心 = "Maria-sama's Soul."
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スール = Sœur.

Latest revision as of 05:13, 15 September 2018

The following are the original formatting standards set by Seki.

Maria-sama ga Miteru Specific Formatting[edit]

Maria-sama, Gokigenyou[edit]

In both of these cases I decided to keep the Japanese iteration. Part of it was a friend bugging me to stay true to the fan iteration of the series. I presume it was kept this way in the anime. I deliberately changed it in the prologue, however, as that felt like a more aloof, realistic and, yeah, specific description.

In the same way, I decided to keep honorifics. -san, -sama, -sensei, unless they were intended to bring a point across "well aren't you a missy!" I don't know if I'll ever run across such an instance in this series, but I'm covering my bases with that heads-up.

Titles[edit]

I kept all of the French titles. Rosa Chinensis, Gigantea, Foetida and the en boutons, as well as Rosa Canina and any other specific titles that crop up. I also kept grande sœur, sœur and petite sœur as they were.

Onee-samas is one I struggled with. In Japanese it is written お姉さま方, which is a plural way of saying onee-sama. Onee-sama, incidentally, I counted as a title, as it was a specific way of calling someone. Yumi always calls Sachiko onee-sama - in fact they have a little, cute spat about this. She never calls anyone else specifically onee-sama. In like kind, I felt the usage of onee-samas, the plural, similar. You only really see this usage when it is someone referring to the Roses, but not calling them "the Roses."

Imouto, however, I switched to little sister. I felt this was synonymous to senpai (upperclassmen), kouhai (underclassmen) and a broader usage of the word onee-sama (elder sisters).

Perspective[edit]

Most of the text is in third-person narrative, so I kept it that way. I've made sure as to keep as much of the text in this perspective, but the author had a tendency to switch into a very first-person-esque mode of speaking every now and then, so there's an abrupt switch into first-person for those moments.

Formality[edit]

I've done my best to make a distinction between when the characters are speaking formally and when they're not, but I'm not the best of speakers of "formal English." My guidelines are a bit rough, but I decided that, while it's a school for upper-class women, most of the students spoke quite casually to one another... particularly in the case of Yumi. Slang is out of the question, of course, but otherwise I kept her speech rather normal. A few characters, such as Rosa Gigantea, I had fun with, diving into slang and other such "immature" modes of speech, but for characters like Sachiko-sama (as well as certain "modes" for characters), I tried to maintain as formal an English as I could. This is definitely one I could use help on.

Words[edit]

There are a few recurring words that I ended up settling on. I'll add them to this list as I go.

優雅 = Elegant.

無垢 = Pure.

華やか = Brilliant.

結構 = Splendid.

マリア様の心 = "Maria-sama's Soul."

スール = Sœur.

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