Editing Talk:Campione! (section)

== Abandoned ==

Is there no way to at least read what was already translated now? (-[[User:Omegalock|Omegalock]] ([[User talk:Omegalock|talk]]) 22:18, 22 October 2015 (UTC))

I hoped they would give us a week or so notice before tearing it all down!
<br /> <br/>Legally they can't if they don't want to get in trouble because of the DMCA. Think of it this way. Would you have them delay it a week and have all of BT taken down or just suddenly take down one series so that they don't cause problems for every other seriescon BT?<br/>
[[User:Yascob99|Yascob99]] ([[User talk:Yascob99|talk]]) 22:40, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Does anybody at least know when these English translations plan to come out? (-[[User:Omegalock|Omegalock]] ([[User talk:Omegalock|talk]]) 22:54, 22 October 2015 (UTC))
::I believe that many people are under a mistake. The one who sent the DMCA notice was Sueisha, the <b>Japanese</b> publisher, and not one from the US. This means that, at least for now, there's no licensing for English language, it comes from the source (and that's why it was taken down in all languages). They may be in the middle of talks with overseas publisher, but they also may be not. What does this mean? There's no date for an eventual official English translation; <u>unless some publisher takes interest in the series, there won't be one ever.</u> This is not a "taken down due to licensing" thing, but "taken down because the original copyright holders said so". There's no room to argue about the goods and evils of licensing. There's no "when did they say they'll publish it in English". The order came straight from Japan. Period.--[[User:Kemm|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm|talk]]) 23:36, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

:::I guess that is true but it doesn't explain why it's only Campione and not all of their series. I did notice my mistake after I read the baka-tsuki facebook post. However, I'm still pretty hopeful for a official english release because of the fact that it was only Campione. Worst case scenario I improve my japanese and order the books from japan to read (and maybe make a private translation). Of the many reasons that I can think of for DMCAing the tranaslations the three that make the most sense to me are they are in discussion with an overseas publisher, the series is popular enough that they are soon expecting an overseas publisher to pick it up and are thus getting a head start on removing the fan-translations from the internet, or the just don't want people fan-translating their copyrighted work and are just taking them down one by one.<br/> Either way I'm optimistic(maybe a little too optimistic) that it will be picked up by an english publisher eventually. I could be very wrong though. Honestly, it would be nice to know the actual reason but I'm sure we'll have a pretty good idea if after a while (up to a year probably) we don't hear anything about an official English release I'm pretty sure that it would be safe to say it was not related to liscensing but possibly Shueisha taking a different stance on foreign fan-translation or something like that. <br/> [[User:Yascob99|Yascob99]] ([[User talk:Yascob99|talk]]) 02:45, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

::::It could have been the author through the publisher, which would explain why only this one, or what you theorize about them expecting a deal soon (or, as I said before, are already making deals with overseas publishers but nothing definitive). It could also be related to some news krytyk has shared about Kadokawa's e-book dealer Bookwalker intention of expanding its market to overseas with English translations of their merchandise, seeing that [http://bookwalker.jp/series/4682/%E3%80%8C%E3%82%AB%E3%83%B3%E3%83%94%E3%82%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%83%8D-%E3%80%8D%E3%82%B7%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BA/ they carry Campione!], and since it's so popular it makes a good guinea pig for the endeavour.--[[User:Kemm|Kemm]] ([[User talk:Kemm|talk]])

:::::I don't think it's the author for one reason and that is because his other series, Laviathan of the Covenant, was not taken down. It also seems about right for it to be Kadokawa who is doing it because it matches the timing. However it could end up being pure coincidence. Well, just hearing about the possiblilty makes me even more optimistic about it getting liscensed.

Well I'm glad I'm learning Japanese. If the worst should come I can retranslate them privately, though it would take a beginner like me a lot of time. But in hoping for an English publication, not only do I love this series, it was one of my first animes/light novels. (-[[User:Omegalock|Omegalock]] ([[User talk:Omegalock|talk]]) 03:53, 23 October 2015 (UTC))