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Hello.
'''Archives:''' [[/Archive 1|1]]
 
   
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I'm Darkoneko, one of this wiki's [[special:listusers/sysop|Old gods]]. As I don't edit much, you probably haven't heard of me.
==Punctuation==
 
===Somewhat interested in Punctuation Changes===
 
   
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On the other hand, I have recently heard a lot about you. So in the last few days, I investigated, read about a book worth of talk page discussions on the wiki, checked on diffs, etc.
How does the bytes work for those anyway? From what you did on IS, the apostrophes for Microsoft Word uses more space than wordpad. Can you explain that to me? Thanks--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 15:19, 29 May 2011 (UCT)
 
   
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Your edit count is pretty impressive. 4629 edits, a lot of which are template creation/integrations and cosmetic changes. The templates are a nice work, tho i don't agree with your "space/storage" argument.<small> Template are interesting because if you want to alter the navigation system, you only have to do it on one place rather than having to edit each page. A few more megabytes of text in a database don't matter.</small>
The types of punctuation used formally were: …‘’“” . I used the characters ... and ' and " to replace them. The thing is,
 
that every type of character has an id set to it in the form of a combination of bits (01010101). This is done because bits,
 
bytes, kilobytes, megabytes, etc, is how data is stored. In other words " does not equal “ or ” in the storing language.
 
However in English they would mean the same thing. " occurs earlier in the storage character table than “ or ” therefore it
 
has a smaller id. Thus space can be saved by using it. My advice is to either stop using MSWord and use WordPad or TextPad
 
editor. OR... first write in MSWord then take it to TextPad and then use the find and replace functions to switch the above
 
characters. You can also use FoxReplace addon if you are using Firefox but that's just a little more complex in initializing
 
the settings but the result is that the replacement process becomes fully automated (It's a major pain if you make a mistake
 
though, if you don't exclude pages you need to, then the replacement could affect something you did not wish it to). The final
 
way is to use this site's own search and replace function. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] 15:41, 29 May 2011 (UCT)
 
   
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But on the other hand, your interactions with people leave a lot to be desired. You have a net tendancy for stubborness and to keep insisting until the other person gives up. This is what happened on [[Kikou Shoujo wa Kizutsukanai]] ; this is what happened on [[Hidan no Aria]] ; this is also also what happened on some less known altercations with other translators and editors. Alas, after reading your various interventions, I came to the conclusion that this part of you haven't changed and that I can't expect it to.
Personally, I use the FoxReplace method. So there might be ''rare'' cases where something unintended was changed. I apologize for that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:37, 4 June 2011 (UCT)
 
   
BTW, … and ... actually do not have any differences in the bytes used. I tried replacing them in an Oreimo chapter, but 0 bytes
 
changed. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] 14:08, 6 July 2011 (UCT)
 
   
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You did a good work on the wiki when it came to maintenance. I honestly thank you for that ; But if the side effect is having others people going away from baka-tsuki ''-especially translators, which are pretty much the rarest thing out there-'', then your overall balance become negative.
Hmm. I suspected as much. Basically that means that the … character is equivalent to three fullstop(.) characters.
 
[[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:49, 6 July 2011 (UCT)
 
   
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It's pretty abrupt, but I can't allow you to edit here anymore. I realise that you will most probably find that unjust ; it wasn't exactly easy for me to make this decision either, but it's final.
===FoxReplace Method===
 
If you are using FireFox ([http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/fx/?ref=logo download here]). All you have to do is install the [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/foxreplace/ FoxReplace addon]. After that create an xml file using Notepad (name it anything you like, for the sake of reference I'll call it "PuncReplace.xml") and write the following code into the file '''(copy as it is)''':
 
   
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I'm really sorry.
<substitutionlist version="0.12">
 
<group>
 
<urls>
 
<url>-http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=User*</url>
 
<url>http://www.baka-tsuki.org/*&amp;action=edit*</url>
 
<url>http://www.baka-tsuki.org/*&amp;action=submit*</url>
 
</urls>
 
<substitutions>
 
<substitution casesensitive="true">
 
<input type="text">"…"</input>
 
<output>"..."</output>
 
</substitution>
 
<substitution casesensitive="true">
 
<input type="text">"‘"</input>
 
<output>"'"</output>
 
</substitution>
 
<substitution casesensitive="true">
 
<input type="text">"’"</input>
 
<output>"'"</output>
 
</substitution>
 
<substitution casesensitive="true">
 
<input type="text">"“"</input>
 
<output>"""</output>
 
</substitution>
 
<substitution casesensitive="true">
 
<input type="text">"”"</input>
 
<output>"""</output>
 
</substitution>
 
<substitution casesensitive="true">
 
<input type="text">"&lt;!—"</input>
 
<output>"&lt;!--"</output>
 
</substitution>
 
<substitution casesensitive="true">
 
<input type="text">" "</input>
 
<output>" "</output>
 
</substitution>
 
</substitutions>
 
</group>
 
</substitutionlist>
 
   
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[[User:Darkoneko|DarkoNeko]] <small>[[User_Talk:Darkoneko|talk]]</small> 09:31, 9 November 2012 (CST)
   
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NB : if it's any consolation, I banned [[user:Lllllllllllllllll]]'s ass, as the account was prety obviously made to create problems.
Save the file.
 
 
After that, (in Firefox) go to FoxReplace options and click the "Import" button, choose the xml file you made ("PuncReplace.xml").
 
 
The settings will automatically load into FoxReplace.
 
 
Click the "Okay" button and after that whenever you edit or see the preview of the edits the FoxReplace addon will automatically make the appropriate substitutions. Good Hunting! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:10, 6 July 2011 (UCT)
 
 
==Messages==
 
 
If its not too much trouble, can you change the template nav on Toaru Majustsu no Index from Spin-Offs to Side Story's? Well this is not an urgent matter so its fine if its done within a month or so. --[[User:Hiro Hayase|Hiro Hayase]] 15:32, 3 September 2011 (CDT)
 
 
Alright then, thanks. -[[User:Hiro Hayase|Hiro Hayase]] 23:16, 3 September 2011 (CDT)
 
 
I have just received the green-light from Teh Ping, you're free to make the changes at any time now. -[[User:Hiro Hayase|Hiro Hayase]] 00:55, 4 September 2011 (CDT)
 
 
I talked it over with him on Animesuki forums, but I told him to message you later about implementing the changes since you need a direct confirmation. -[[User:Hiro Hayase|Hiro Hayase]] 21:03, 4 September 2011 (CDT)
 
 
Yup, I gave Hiro Hayase the green light--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 23:14, 4 September 2011 (CDT)
 
 
On Infinite Stratos. Young Japanese women or school girls usually say "Ehhh~" just to sound cute or in a cutesy manner in Japanese societyespecially in conversations between fellow woman. So its better to keep them in most cases in IS. It's staying true to the author's original intent since "Whaaat" isn't very cute sounding for the most part, although it does fit in the sentence. -[[User:Hiro Hayase|Hiro Hayase]] 22:01, 7 September 2011 (CDT)
 
 
Thanks, please do that then. -[[User:Hiro Hayase|Hiro Hayase]] 01:08, 8 September 2011 (CDT)
 
 
Can I ask you help me change all these unnecessary got's in IS? The got's are far to numerous and could easily be replaced to was, were, get, become, became, and etc. Except in dialogues since grammar doesn't matter much there. I don't think it changes the meaning if you change it. -[[User:Hiro Hayase|Hiro Hayase]] 19:05, 17 September 2011 (CDT)
 
 
Agreed, two heads are better than one. Let's do as you proposed then. -[[User:Hiro Hayase|Hiro Hayase]] 22:41, 17 September 2011 (CDT)
 
 
Zero, I've just logged in now and saw this wonderful template you created. It's very handy. Thank you so much! sorry for saying thank you so late.
 
BTW, I've just uploaded a chapter. It's shown in the collapsable Nav Template. My questions are:
 
1. Is there a link where I can go directly to the Nav rather than clicking it from the msg you left on CSR?
 
2. What edits do I need to make so that on the main page of CSR, it's shown that the chapter has been uploaded? (I did the usual edit but the chapter - vol 15, Ch1 - is still red in colour)
 
I'm terrible with computer codes and stuff. Thanks in advance for the help!
 
-[[User:Blewin|Blewin]] 21-10-11
 
 
== Simultaneous edits ==
 
 
I don't think it would be easy to guess if someone is editing at the same time you do. You can perhaps try to find an arrangement, but there's no way that it's on purpose. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:24, 3 October 2011 (CDT)
 
 
If a simultaneous edit occurs then the system catches it and the edit page reloads with both versions (yours and the conflicted one's) in order to let the editor merge his edits with the previously given one. I'd like to think it's a mistake as well. But just copying everything and then pasting it instead of selective copy pasting is just wrong. Take me for example. I copied the section (using history) that I previously edited and pasted it in the exact place in the current revision in order to make sure that others' edits aren't harmed as much a possible. Couldn't the same have been done by the others? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 02:48, 4 October 2011 (CDT)
 
 
==IS==
 
Want to ask something. Didi you also fix the punctuation and stuffs vor vol 1 to 4 as well? 14:28, 5 October 2011 Castor212
 
 
Mostly yes but as I edited more and more, my understanding of the punctuation and stuff also increased. So I may have to go back and review everything. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 09:35, 5 October 2011 (CDT)
 
 
Did you also fix stuffs like missing " and mispelled words? Particularly in vol 1 [[User:Castor212|Castor212]] 05:36, 6 October 2011 (CDT)
 
 
Like I said before. My understanding of the kind of mistakes that can occur has increased form before. Back then I did not expect missing " to even happen but I did correct many spelling mistakes. But I will need to check again, especially vol 1 and vol 6. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:34, 6 October 2011 (CDT)
 
 
Well, if you do check again, please tell me, cuz ill need to update my pdf^^ [[User:Castor212|Castor212]] 05:36, 6 October 2011 (CDT)
 
 
Sure. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:34, 6 October 2011 (CDT)
 
 
== Reference System ==
 
 
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4582#p114933
 
 
I don't understand the post, but I think you do. So, is it possible to change the ref system? [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:44, 6 October 2011 (CDT)
 
 
Well with this it should be possible to change the ref system... But I can't say I like the idea. You won't be able to visually differentiate between the different chapters. Plus normal users can't edit that page, only sysops can. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 18:14, 6 October 2011 (CDT)
 
 
==Navigation Bar==
 
 
Can I use your navigation bar templates as a basis to create one for Kyou Kara Maou?
 
[[User:Stellarroze|Stellarroze]] 22:08, 20 January 2012 (CST)
 
 
Thanks for offering to create the nav bar for Kyou Kara Maou, I'll gladly accept it. :) It would have been a whole load of trial and error for me. You can see all the volumes and chapters on the page - http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=MA_Series#Updates . As for how we name them, it's <MaruMA> <Prologue / Chapter #>.
 
 
Thanks again.
 

Latest revision as of 12:32, 10 November 2012

Hello.

I'm Darkoneko, one of this wiki's Old gods. As I don't edit much, you probably haven't heard of me.

On the other hand, I have recently heard a lot about you. So in the last few days, I investigated, read about a book worth of talk page discussions on the wiki, checked on diffs, etc.

Your edit count is pretty impressive. 4629 edits, a lot of which are template creation/integrations and cosmetic changes. The templates are a nice work, tho i don't agree with your "space/storage" argument. Template are interesting because if you want to alter the navigation system, you only have to do it on one place rather than having to edit each page. A few more megabytes of text in a database don't matter.

But on the other hand, your interactions with people leave a lot to be desired. You have a net tendancy for stubborness and to keep insisting until the other person gives up. This is what happened on Kikou Shoujo wa Kizutsukanai ; this is what happened on Hidan no Aria ; this is also also what happened on some less known altercations with other translators and editors. Alas, after reading your various interventions, I came to the conclusion that this part of you haven't changed and that I can't expect it to.


You did a good work on the wiki when it came to maintenance. I honestly thank you for that ; But if the side effect is having others people going away from baka-tsuki -especially translators, which are pretty much the rarest thing out there-, then your overall balance become negative.

It's pretty abrupt, but I can't allow you to edit here anymore. I realise that you will most probably find that unjust ; it wasn't exactly easy for me to make this decision either, but it's final.

I'm really sorry.

DarkoNeko talk 09:31, 9 November 2012 (CST)

NB : if it's any consolation, I banned user:Lllllllllllllllll's ass, as the account was prety obviously made to create problems.