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| + | Hello. |
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| − | '''Archives:''' [[/Archive 1|1]] |
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| + | I'm Darkoneko, one of this wiki's [[special:listusers/sysop|Old gods]]. As I don't edit much, you probably haven't heard of me. |
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| − | ==Punctuation== |
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| − | ===Somewhat interested in Punctuation Changes=== |
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| + | On the other hand, I have recently heard a lot about you. So in the last few days, I investigated, read about a book worth of talk page discussions on the wiki, checked on diffs, etc. |
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| − | How does the bytes work for those anyway? From what you did on IS, the apostrophes for Microsoft Word uses more space than wordpad. Can you explain that to me? Thanks--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 15:19, 29 May 2011 (UCT) |
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| + | Your edit count is pretty impressive. 4629 edits, a lot of which are template creation/integrations and cosmetic changes. The templates are a nice work, tho i don't agree with your "space/storage" argument.<small> Template are interesting because if you want to alter the navigation system, you only have to do it on one place rather than having to edit each page. A few more megabytes of text in a database don't matter.</small> |
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| − | The types of punctuation used formally were: …‘’“” . I used the characters ... and ' and " to replace them. The thing is, |
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| − | that every type of character has an id set to it in the form of a combination of bits (01010101). This is done because bits, |
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| − | bytes, kilobytes, megabytes, etc, is how data is stored. In other words " does not equal “ or ” in the storing language. |
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| − | However in English they would mean the same thing. " occurs earlier in the storage character table than “ or ” therefore it |
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| − | has a smaller id. Thus space can be saved by using it. My advice is to either stop using MSWord and use WordPad or TextPad |
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| − | editor. OR... first write in MSWord then take it to TextPad and then use the find and replace functions to switch the above |
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| − | characters. You can also use FoxReplace addon if you are using Firefox but that's just a little more complex in initializing |
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| − | the settings but the result is that the replacement process becomes fully automated (It's a major pain if you make a mistake |
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| − | though, if you don't exclude pages you need to, then the replacement could affect something you did not wish it to). The final |
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| − | way is to use this site's own search and replace function. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] 15:41, 29 May 2011 (UCT) |
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| + | But on the other hand, your interactions with people leave a lot to be desired. You have a net tendancy for stubborness and to keep insisting until the other person gives up. This is what happened on [[Kikou Shoujo wa Kizutsukanai]] ; this is what happened on [[Hidan no Aria]] ; this is also also what happened on some less known altercations with other translators and editors. Alas, after reading your various interventions, I came to the conclusion that this part of you haven't changed and that I can't expect it to. |
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| − | Personally, I use the FoxReplace method. So there might be ''rare'' cases where something unintended was changed. I apologize for that. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 00:37, 4 June 2011 (UCT) |
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| − | BTW, … and ... actually do not have any differences in the bytes used. I tried replacing them in an Oreimo chapter, but 0 bytes |
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| − | changed. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] 14:08, 6 July 2011 (UCT) |
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| + | You did a good work on the wiki when it came to maintenance. I honestly thank you for that ; But if the side effect is having others people going away from baka-tsuki ''-especially translators, which are pretty much the rarest thing out there-'', then your overall balance become negative. |
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| − | Hmm. I suspected as much. Basically that means that the … character is equivalent to three fullstop(.) characters. |
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| − | [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 16:49, 6 July 2011 (UCT) |
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| + | It's pretty abrupt, but I can't allow you to edit here anymore. I realise that you will most probably find that unjust ; it wasn't exactly easy for me to make this decision either, but it's final. |
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| − | ===FoxReplace Method=== |
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| − | If you are using FireFox ([http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/fx/?ref=logo download here]). All you have to do is install the [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/foxreplace/ FoxReplace addon]. After that create an xml file using Notepad (name it anything you like, for the sake of reference I'll call it "PuncReplace.xml") and write the following code into the file '''(copy as it is)''': |
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| + | I'm really sorry. |
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| − | <substitutionlist version="0.12"> |
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| − | <group> |
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| − | <urls> |
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| − | <url>-http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=User*</url> |
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| − | <url>http://www.baka-tsuki.org/*&action=edit*</url> |
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| − | <url>http://www.baka-tsuki.org/*&action=submit*</url> |
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| − | </urls> |
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| − | <substitutions> |
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| − | <substitution casesensitive="true"> |
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| − | <input type="text">"…"</input> |
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| − | <output>"..."</output> |
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| − | </substitution> |
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| − | <substitution casesensitive="true"> |
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| − | <input type="text">"‘"</input> |
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| − | <output>"'"</output> |
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| − | </substitution> |
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| − | <substitution casesensitive="true"> |
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| − | <input type="text">"’"</input> |
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| − | <output>"'"</output> |
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| − | </substitution> |
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| − | <substitution casesensitive="true"> |
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| − | <input type="text">"“"</input> |
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| − | <output>"""</output> |
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| − | </substitution> |
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| − | <substitution casesensitive="true"> |
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| − | <input type="text">"”"</input> |
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| − | <output>"""</output> |
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| − | </substitution> |
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| − | <substitution casesensitive="true"> |
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| − | <input type="text">"<!—"</input> |
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| − | <output>"<!--"</output> |
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| − | </substitution> |
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| − | <substitution casesensitive="true"> |
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| − | <input type="text">" "</input> |
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| − | <output>" "</output> |
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| − | </substitution> |
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| − | </substitutions> |
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| − | </group> |
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| − | </substitutionlist> |
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| + | [[User:Darkoneko|DarkoNeko]] <small>[[User_Talk:Darkoneko|talk]]</small> 09:31, 9 November 2012 (CST) |
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| + | NB : if it's any consolation, I banned [[user:Lllllllllllllllll]]'s ass, as the account was prety obviously made to create problems. |
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| − | Save the file. |
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| − | After that, (in Firefox) go to FoxReplace options and click the "Import" button, choose the xml file you made ("PuncReplace.xml"). |
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| − | The settings will automatically load into FoxReplace. |
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| − | Click the "Okay" button and after that whenever you edit or see the preview of the edits the FoxReplace addon will automatically make the appropriate substitutions. Good Hunting! [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 17:10, 6 July 2011 (UCT) |
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| − | ===Stuttering=== |
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| − | Everyone should be warned. Stuttering is denoted differently in Japanese and English. In Japanese stuttering is denoted by '''comma''' or three dots. Whereas in English stuttering is denoted by '''hyphen''' or three dots. The reason is to ensure that the <big>'''I'''</big> in stuttering words like <big>'''I-I'''t</big> aren't mistaken with the self reference word <big>'''I'''</big>. There are other similar instances as well. Since '''commas''' would allow for such mistakes to happen thus '''hyphens''' are used instead. Such conflicts do not occur in Japanese (due to watashi, boku, etc instead of in English where <big>'''I'''</big> can be confused since most stutterings are of words that start with <big>'''I'''</big> or similar circumstances, <big>'''A'''</big> is another one). [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stutter#Primary_behaviors See here.] Take care to properly translate thus. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 12:37, 9 February 2012 (CST) |
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| − | ==Messages== |
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| − | If its not too much trouble, can you change the template nav on Toaru Majustsu no Index from Spin-Offs to Side Story's? Well this is not an urgent matter so its fine if its done within a month or so. --[[User:Hiro Hayase|Hiro Hayase]] 15:32, 3 September 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | Alright then, thanks. -[[User:Hiro Hayase|Hiro Hayase]] 23:16, 3 September 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | I have just received the green-light from Teh Ping, you're free to make the changes at any time now. -[[User:Hiro Hayase|Hiro Hayase]] 00:55, 4 September 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | I talked it over with him on Animesuki forums, but I told him to message you later about implementing the changes since you need a direct confirmation. -[[User:Hiro Hayase|Hiro Hayase]] 21:03, 4 September 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | Yup, I gave Hiro Hayase the green light--[[User:Teh Ping|Teh Ping]] 23:14, 4 September 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | On Infinite Stratos. Young Japanese women or school girls usually say "Ehhh~" just to sound cute or in a cutesy manner in Japanese societyespecially in conversations between fellow woman. So its better to keep them in most cases in IS. It's staying true to the author's original intent since "Whaaat" isn't very cute sounding for the most part, although it does fit in the sentence. -[[User:Hiro Hayase|Hiro Hayase]] 22:01, 7 September 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | Thanks, please do that then. -[[User:Hiro Hayase|Hiro Hayase]] 01:08, 8 September 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | Can I ask you help me change all these unnecessary got's in IS? The got's are far to numerous and could easily be replaced to was, were, get, become, became, and etc. Except in dialogues since grammar doesn't matter much there. I don't think it changes the meaning if you change it. -[[User:Hiro Hayase|Hiro Hayase]] 19:05, 17 September 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | Agreed, two heads are better than one. Let's do as you proposed then. -[[User:Hiro Hayase|Hiro Hayase]] 22:41, 17 September 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | Zero, I've just logged in now and saw this wonderful template you created. It's very handy. Thank you so much! sorry for saying thank you so late. |
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| − | BTW, I've just uploaded a chapter. It's shown in the collapsable Nav Template. My questions are: |
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| − | 1. Is there a link where I can go directly to the Nav rather than clicking it from the msg you left on CSR? |
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| − | 2. What edits do I need to make so that on the main page of CSR, it's shown that the chapter has been uploaded? (I did the usual edit but the chapter - vol 15, Ch1 - is still red in colour) |
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| − | I'm terrible with computer codes and stuff. Thanks in advance for the help! |
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| − | -[[User:Blewin|Blewin]] 21-10-11 |
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| − | Hi, I added parts incomplete to your Incomplete template. Somehow the display is messed up, can you see if you can fix it? Thanks. Check this link to see how it looks now - [[Accel_World:Volume_10_Chapter_3|Accel World Volume 10 Chapter 3]]. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 05:18, 14 February 2012 (CST) |
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| − | Thanks for the quick fix. I looked at it too but couldn't find what's wrong. Still not too sure how you fixed it either. All those brackets make me dizzy. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 05:52, 14 February 2012 (CST) |
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| − | That's strange, my AW Nav has "if then" lines too, and I put them on separate lines with no problem. Ah well all that matters is it got fixed. About helping with SAO, I might be able to do it, but only after I finish Accel World volume 2, not earlier, sorry. I forgot to mention, SAO volume 5 chapter 6 might be sort of free for helping, but chapter 7 is being worked on by Desodus so there might be some sort of problem taking over it... [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 17:56, 14 February 2012 (CST) |
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| − | Thanks for the offer, but hold off on that AW Nav mod for now. For one I don't want to psyche myself with your red links, and for another, I want to try to see if I can keep the existing nav for a collapase title. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 06:20, 15 February 2012 (CST) |
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| − | I mod my [[Template:AW Nav|Accel World Nav Template]] to include full content nav, just volume 1, 2 and 10 right now though. It's not pretty like yours but seems to work fine. Check it out if you want. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 07:30, 15 February 2012 (CST) |
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| − | About making my AW Nav looking better, only if you can keep the link parts so that I can see where I am going to read next. Sometimes when I get to the bottom of a chapter, I forget which chapter it is, and seeing where I am going exactly instead of just Next helps. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 11:42, 15 February 2012 (CST) |
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| − | I made it look prettier now. Going to leave it like that, unless you want to help me with colors and font size. Thanks, but you don't need to do any major work on it anymore for now. [[User:Xplorer30|Xplorer30]] - [[User_talk:Xplorer30|Talk]] 14:21, 15 February 2012 (CST) |
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| − | == Simultaneous edits == |
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| − | I don't think it would be easy to guess if someone is editing at the same time you do. You can perhaps try to find an arrangement, but there's no way that it's on purpose. [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:24, 3 October 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | If a simultaneous edit occurs then the system catches it and the edit page reloads with both versions (yours and the conflicted one's) in order to let the editor merge his edits with the previously given one. I'd like to think it's a mistake as well. But just copying everything and then pasting it instead of selective copy pasting is just wrong. Take me for example. I copied the section (using history) that I previously edited and pasted it in the exact place in the current revision in order to make sure that others' edits aren't harmed as much a possible. Couldn't the same have been done by the others? [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 02:48, 4 October 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | ==IS== |
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| − | Want to ask something. Didi you also fix the punctuation and stuffs vor vol 1 to 4 as well? 14:28, 5 October 2011 Castor212 |
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| − | Mostly yes but as I edited more and more, my understanding of the punctuation and stuff also increased. So I may have to go back and review everything. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 09:35, 5 October 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | Did you also fix stuffs like missing " and mispelled words? Particularly in vol 1 [[User:Castor212|Castor212]] 05:36, 6 October 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | Like I said before. My understanding of the kind of mistakes that can occur has increased form before. Back then I did not expect missing " to even happen but I did correct many spelling mistakes. But I will need to check again, especially vol 1 and vol 6. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 04:34, 6 October 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | Well, if you do check again, please tell me, cuz ill need to update my pdf^^ [[User:Castor212|Castor212]] 05:36, 6 October 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | Sure. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 11:34, 6 October 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | == Reference System == |
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| − | http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4582#p114933 |
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| − | I don't understand the post, but I think you do. So, is it possible to change the ref system? [[User:Kira0802|Kira]] ([[User_talk:Kira0802|Talk]]) 16:44, 6 October 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | Well with this it should be possible to change the ref system... But I can't say I like the idea. You won't be able to visually differentiate between the different chapters. Plus normal users can't edit that page, only sysops can. [[User:Zero2001|Zero2001]] - [[User_talk:Zero2001|Talk]] - 18:14, 6 October 2011 (CDT) |
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| − | Can I use your navigation bar templates as a basis to create one for Kyou Kara Maou? |
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| − | [[User:Stellarroze|Stellarroze]] 22:08, 20 January 2012 (CST) |
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| − | Thanks for offering to create the nav bar for Kyou Kara Maou, I'll gladly accept it. :) It would have been a whole load of trial and error for me. You can see all the volumes and chapters on the page - http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=MA_Series#Updates . As for how we name them, it's <MaruMA> <Prologue / Chapter #>. |
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| − | Thanks again. |
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| − | Novels 1, 3 and 8 only have "Full Text Versions" :S [[User:ClavelSangrante|ClavelSangrante]] 23:02, 21 January 2012 (CST) |
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| − | As for why the project name isn't Kyou Kara Maou, "MA Series" or "Maru-MA Series" is the name of the light novels whilst KKM is the name of the anime. I guess I'm too used to using Kyou Kara Maou. Sorry it caused confusion. As for the chapter-volume issue, one of our translators have a problem with the Baka Tsuki general method and would prefer to do it that way for her contributions. Who should I ask to get permission to allow that? Thanks :D [[User:Stellarroze|Stellarroze]] 01:25, 23 January 2012 (CST) |
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| − | I think that two of our translator have the same problem, I already asked Onizuka- GTO if there´d be a problem. [[User:ClavelSangrante|ClavelSangrante]] |
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| − | From my talk page: |
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| − | It was the translators decision to upload the volumes this way, this is the only way we could upload our job (except Stellarroze) we don´t want to post multiple copies of the same thing. So, I hope it will be understandable. We have no problems with future editing or posting it here, we just don´t want to post twice each chapter. These translations were started before uploading them here, so they would be hosted. ClavelSangrante 04:59, 23 January 2012 (CST) |
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| − | [[User:Stellarroze|Stellarroze]] 05:25, 23 January 2012 (CST) |
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| − | Thank you! I forgot to copy it here.[[User:ClavelSangrante|ClavelSangrante]] |
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| − | Yes, we talked about that =P Now everything is alright and each volume has its chapters listed. We are new at baka tsuki, I´m sorry fot he mistake :S [[User:ClavelSangrante|ClavelSangrante]] 18:56, 23 January 2012 (CST) |
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| − | Please go ahead :) [[User:Stellarroze|Stellarroze]] 06:26, 25 January 2012 (CST) |
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| − | Thanks a lot for all your help and feel free to take your time. [[User:Stellarroze|Stellarroze]] 08:27, 25 January 2012 (CST) |
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| − | Thanks for helping to make the Nav Bar :) As for those three volumes, we haven't got the RAWS for them yet so we don't know how many chapters they have. So, all I have to do is add the code to the bottom of each page now? |
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| − | [[User:Stellarroze|Stellarroze]] 11:32, 29 January 2012 (CST) |
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| − | Well, although I´m not sure about how many chapters they have, the chapters are already listed, at least how many chapters they should have :/ |
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| − | Thank you for making maruma template [[User:ClavelSangrante|ClavelSangrante]] |
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Latest revision as of 12:32, 10 November 2012
Hello.
I'm Darkoneko, one of this wiki's Old gods. As I don't edit much, you probably haven't heard of me.
On the other hand, I have recently heard a lot about you. So in the last few days, I investigated, read about a book worth of talk page discussions on the wiki, checked on diffs, etc.
Your edit count is pretty impressive. 4629 edits, a lot of which are template creation/integrations and cosmetic changes. The templates are a nice work, tho i don't agree with your "space/storage" argument. Template are interesting because if you want to alter the navigation system, you only have to do it on one place rather than having to edit each page. A few more megabytes of text in a database don't matter.
But on the other hand, your interactions with people leave a lot to be desired. You have a net tendancy for stubborness and to keep insisting until the other person gives up. This is what happened on Kikou Shoujo wa Kizutsukanai ; this is what happened on Hidan no Aria ; this is also also what happened on some less known altercations with other translators and editors. Alas, after reading your various interventions, I came to the conclusion that this part of you haven't changed and that I can't expect it to.
You did a good work on the wiki when it came to maintenance. I honestly thank you for that ; But if the side effect is having others people going away from baka-tsuki -especially translators, which are pretty much the rarest thing out there-, then your overall balance become negative.
It's pretty abrupt, but I can't allow you to edit here anymore. I realise that you will most probably find that unjust ; it wasn't exactly easy for me to make this decision either, but it's final.
I'm really sorry.
DarkoNeko talk 09:31, 9 November 2012 (CST)
NB : if it's any consolation, I banned user:Lllllllllllllllll's ass, as the account was prety obviously made to create problems.
