Talk:Meeting:March302014

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Meeting started

Clarify Ambiguous (outdated) Baka-Tsuki guidelines.

"is the one week requirement to complete a new chapter

choice 1) keep it 2) extend it to a month 3) remove it 

<Kira0802> 3.
<Vallor> 2/3
<stellarroze> 2.
<krytyk> 1
<Misogi> 3
<Lery> 3
<cloudii> 3
<Lord-Simon> 3
<Darkoneko> 3

Majority to remove it.

consensus seems to expect a new project to already have material ready (like a prologue/intro already translated), rather than start from zero DarkoNeko talk 08:40, 30 March 2014 (CDT)

teaser status / ATP

random questions during chat mode (to complete)

  • Should teasers be an intermediate step in the creation of a project ?
  • What about teasers where the translator know already that (s)he'll be too busy to continue (and made than in hope another translator picks the project up) ?
  • Translators often tag something as a project in hope to get it to the side bar/categories and give it visibility
  • Every project seems to start by being tagged as a teaser for some reason (misuse ?)


Vote of new modus operandi : 

1). Teaser tag is the default tag to be put on new project
2). When the teaser reaches the requirements for full project, translator tags Pending
3). Oni/DarkoNeko/Vaelis (or other supervisor) approves

<Kira0802> Yea
<cloudii> Yes
<Cthaeh> yes
<krytyk> yes
<rock96> Yep
<hayashi> yes
<stellarroze> yes
<Code-Zero> yes
<Vallor> Yes but what's happened to the deadline?
<Misogi> Yes (although the Alt. Languages situation should be clarified).
<DarkoNeko> yes
<Lery> yes
<Lord-Simon> yes

mailing supervisors

<cloudii> There are number of instances int he rules
<cloudii> that require members to "email" supervisors
<cloudii> ...
<cloudii> Remove all references thereof 
<cloudii> of that form of contact


Vote : everyone approve

Creating a wiki page for requests

" Create a single location on the Wiki where administrative requests can be made. This should be at location that all sysops/supervisors monitor."


(like on wikipedia)

vote : 

<+Lord-Simon> yes
<Misogi> Yes.
<cloudii> yes
<Kira0802> Yea
<rock96> Yes.
<&DarkoNeko> agreed
<krytyk> y
<Lery> yes
<hayashi> yes

remove Wiki rules on forums

"rules about the forum should be on the forum, but rules about the wiki are also on the forum. They should be moved to the wiki"

Vote : everyone agrees

Create comprehensive Help Pages to improve the experience of brand-new members.

vote : all approve.

Detail of content of saide pages to be discussed séparatly

inactivity

Inactive people in power group issues :

  • Risk of accounts being hacked
  • Risks of people asking long-time inactive members to do stuff and never get answers.
  • cluttering of said groups


Motion : 

<cloudii> 1). One year of inactivty = loss of physical wiki rights
<cloudii> 2). If you end up coming back, talk to a sysop to be reinstated

Vote : 

<Kira0802> Yea
<Cthaeh> vote yes
<rock96> yes
<Lery> yes
<hayashi> mondai nai
<krytyk> y
<&DarkoNeko> vote y
<Vallor> yes
<victorrama> Yea
<+Lord-Simon> yes, even if I'm sceptical

project leading and supervisions

Renaming of some of the roles for a project, for clarity 

 "Project Supervisor -> Project Manager (usually one of the translators or editors. Does not need to be a member of a particular power user group)"
 "Project Administrator -> Supervisor (wiki supervisor or above)"

<cloudii> Yes
<krytyk> yes
<Kira0802> Yea
<Vallor> Yeah
<Misogi> Yes (although I may not count)
<Lery> yes
<Cthaeh> yes, vote
<&DarkoNeko> i'd have preferred "translation project manager" for clarity, but I'll take that
<rock96> 'K, I think

Vote : approved

Project Manager

"If a project manager knows they'll be away for a while, they should designate a subtitute to take all decisions in their absence"

Vote : all agreed.

"In case of unannounced inactivity or management issues, the project staff may ask the Supervisor to mediate and/or appoint a new Project Manager amongst the active project members"

Vote : approved.

"The first Project Manager is appointed by the Supervisor during ATP procedure."

Vote : approved.


Complete Log of the Meeting


(It's possible there's a few lines missing at the end, but I think it's effectively complete. - Cthaeh)

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